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Post by SilverSergyon13 on May 28, 2006 8:16:36 GMT -5
I thought the story was funny, but that's what it is meant to be. In real life, the police man would never just arrest the women from her car and bring her to a police station.
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Post by Mundane Soul of a Thousand on Sept 1, 2006 16:46:52 GMT -5
The only problem with today is that not very many people have discipline, especially younger people these days. I don't know why, but I suppose people think that discipline is a form of 'child abuse'. I don't think so. But that is very good, and I appreciate it as I haven't gotten very far in the Bible.
The problem with this is that not all Churches teach the right thing. There are Christians, but then there are also different 'types' of Christians. It's all so confusing. For example, I'm Protestant, and my father's Catholic. I wasn't raised as a Catholic because I lived with my mother for the former part of my life. And honestly, I'm glad not to be Catholic, not to be rude or anything, but so many of their teachings I disagree with because it doesn't agree with what the Bible says. Yet I digress on that subject, and get to my point. How odd of a pair is that? Why can't we all agree on the same thing? I mean, the Bible is the Word of God yes? You can't just pick and choose what you like and discard what you don't like . . .
All right, I admit I just confused myself, but hopefully you understand what I'm trying to tell.
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Post by Ali Blue on Sept 1, 2006 20:56:59 GMT -5
I pretty much agree with some of the stuff you just said. All I can say is that the area of denominations is a very touchy, cloudy, and political subject.. As long as someone agrees with these two statements: Jesus Christ died for my sins because I cannot pay the penalty on my own; God is three in one the parts are God the Father, God the Holy Spirit, and God the Son. I will accept anyone who agrees with those statements as my brother or sister in Christ. Period.
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Post by Mundane Soul of a Thousand on Sept 2, 2006 11:50:00 GMT -5
I just don't understand why we can't agree on what the BIBLE tells us . . . Society is slowly getting worse, and that's all I'll say . . .
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Post by Master Warious on Sept 3, 2006 21:23:07 GMT -5
Cause doctrine is something people can't see past...I'm beginning to see that....and I just remind myself, If they love God and Jesus Christ and believe in them then its all cool...unless something is flagrantly against the Bible
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Post by Curious George on Sept 11, 2006 13:12:46 GMT -5
Why a sig wreaking of deathly stench, while at the same time claiming to be Christian?
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Sept 11, 2006 14:03:07 GMT -5
Curious George, it's called Terry Prachett Fandom Signature Love. Log in if you want to flame, or create a user name; we don't like guest flamers and that's what causes me to disable guest posting, though I very much don't want to because sometimes we here are lazy and we also DO like hearing what guests have to say. I pretty much agree with some of the stuff you just said. All I can say is that the area of denominations is a very touchy, cloudy, and political subject.. As long as someone agrees with these two statements: Jesus Christ died for my sins because I cannot pay the penalty on my own; God is three in one the parts are God the Father, God the Holy Spirit, and God the Son. I will accept anyone who agrees with those statements as my brother or sister in Christ. Period. Can I amend? I will accept anyone who believes the following statements as my brother or sister in Christ... 1) Jesus Christ died and ROSE AGAIN for my sins because I cannot pay the penalty on my own. And to gain forgiveness for my sins, I simply have to have faith and believe that he did this for me: no, it has absolutely nothing to do with works or rituals or anything, it's simply faith. 2) God is three in one: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. 3) In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Just the slight expansion. I will not accept someone as a Christian if they believe salvation is through works or ritual, because that's against Bibical truths, and I just sort of don't like that people forget that he rose again too, and, er, if you can't believe the first verse of the Bible, how the heck can you believe the rest of it... Yup. As for Catholics vs Prodestents... Anyone who believes my above statement: that Jesus Christ died and rose again for our sins because we cannot pay the price and believes that through faith (and not works or ritual) we can gain redemption and mercy is a Christian. A Christian is neither a Catholic or Prodestent or any other denomination, it's someone who believes this basic Bibical teaching, if you believe it, you're a Christian. It doesn't matter what denomination you are. That's why I hold to my nondenominational faith. I call myself a Prodestent. I don't believe in all the Catholic rituals. But I met a Catholic girl on the way home from MB and her beliefs basically matched up entirely to mine, down to the docternal part of it. Yeah, she believed in going to confession, sure. But not because it would save her. She believed that it was Jesus's death that offered salvation and confession was just a way of holding accountable. Technically, we should all be able to agree on the same thing. But not all churches believe the Bible is the Word of God. Not all people are like me and pretty open to accepting anyone who believes Jesus died and rose again for our sins. They go all "OMG! You go to a (fill in the blank) church! UR GOING TO HELL HAHAHAA!!!" Er. Yeah. This is based on the experience I had with Menonnites who informed me that because I was wearing nail polish, I was going to hell. Thank you, that is all.
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Post by commanderatwork on Sept 11, 2006 19:12:52 GMT -5
Heh, I've been thru the same thing - only with 7th Day adventists and earrings.... Heh.
I'll add more onto this later, but may I say I've heard this story about 60 times? It's one of my priest - Catholic priest's - favorite sermon points. ANd it happened to him, so.... *shrugs*
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Post by Ali Blue on Sept 11, 2006 19:28:17 GMT -5
Yeah.. I was in a rush, I looked over a coupe important things.. typical of me. lol
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Post by sithhunter on Sept 28, 2006 13:10:27 GMT -5
You want to know why pepole dont accept the bible? ITs like this they hate that If they follow god they have to follow his ruels and they hate the idea of haveing to get up every sunday to go to curch and be apart of god's word. And they would have to give up a lot of things they love to do that god wont allow.....So in other words they just find it easyer to say there is no god and either be an evolutionist or aithists.Or just not care.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Sept 28, 2006 23:30:01 GMT -5
Not necessarily. truly following any sort of god must come from the heart. If people feel there is no god, than that is just what they feel and their personal beliefs. That certainly doesn't make them lazy, and just because a person is lazy doesn't mean they are athiest.
I feel I have to believe in evolution because its the only thing that makes sense to me. From everything I've learned about genes and archaeology (sp?) the adam and eve story just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And being evolutionist is not a religion. It just means one believes in a sceintific root of things.
I don't believe that everything in the bible is true for the simple fact it was written by man. You can argue all you want about how the bible was inspried by gad and all that other stuff, but bottom line that hands that wrote the bible were that of a man's. A human being. How many times have humans been known to lie, exaggerate, and make up things? What makes the bible any different? I believe the bible has some great stories and morals, but I don't believe every single word of it. Yes, some may retell history, but I believe most of it is just a story.
I also don't believe church is necessary for a religion. How come people always have to be brought closer to god through church? I believe that a person can become closer to their god of choice in any way they choose, whether that be at home, in the bathtub, at church, shopping for groceries...you name it.
I have more to add, but I'm so sleepy I'm gonna go to bed.
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Post by Ali Blue on Oct 6, 2006 23:07:41 GMT -5
It's so hard to explain! gah! XP.. (brain.. meltdown...commensing..) Prologue: If any of this sounds weird.. or strange in anyway.. I am extremely tired. There's your reason. Don't forget it.. never. ever. ........ Following 'any sort of god' does come from the heart.. but..... grrr... I'll come back to that.. Yeah. Just because someone's atheist doesn't mean they're lazy. and if you think about it.. if anyone should be lazy it should be people who believe in a god.. (I know I know.. wrong side, right?) but it doesn't work that way.. off topic.. If I might ask.. Silver, how do you believe the world came to be? I'm just interested.. you don't seem like the big bang type.. Well, the thing about the way El Bible was written... ... erm.. it wasn't man persay... yes literally, it was... but it wasn't... am I making any sense..? I think not. Lemme 'splain: It's like God took their little hands and scribbled all the little words onto la papel. And about it being valid.. well.. it all does match up. And it was written by different little hands. That also supports my other point, the only logical reason that all those different authors could have matched up all their stories.. (some of them never met, you see) would be if it wasn't authored by them, but by God. Does that make sense? or am I just.. ranting.. I might get a bit of contraversy on this.. but I agree with you Silver. Church isn't necessary.. It helps.. sometimes... but it's not like oxygen or anything.. I personally think the only relationship that matters is the one with God, and from it... good stuff happens. and your other relationships get better. so one way to make other relationships better is to make your relationship with God better! Way off topic.. Shoot me now before I go on.. Okay.. back to the beginning.. I think I'm ready now. XD maybe. Religion in general is partly logic, partly feelings, partly a bunch of stuff. you get the idea. don't you? say you do. now. Well.. we as Christians don't think that it's really anything we do except for willingness to change.. and love<3. ignore the heart. God gives us the ability to believe, and he softens our hearts and rescues us when we've hit the bottom. Sometimes that's what it takes for us to turn to God.. sometimes we're a little less stubborn. Well anyway. For others' religions: I guess it's just what makes the most sense, or what they personally feel is right. It's difficult to explain. When you believe in say... Brahman, the Hindu god/cosmic spirit, you believe in Brahman because well.. frankly, it makes you feel good. It gives you a sense of assurance that there is a higher power out there. It gives you a sense of identity, and gives your life purpose. That's what religion does. The world's view: need a sense of purpose? Get a family/great job/anything that makes you happy, and if that doesn't work, find the religion that makes you feel good. It's the world's philosophy! Fulfilled life=purposeful life. Whatever gives you purpose will fulfill you. This might not make sense to you right now.. I'll post a translation from the sleepy-Ali version to the waky-Ali version if it's totally incoherent..
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Post by Silversergyon13 lazy on Oct 8, 2006 21:07:03 GMT -5
No, you're post makes perfect sense. LOL, I'm tired too. Been running around all weekend, witnessing police chasedowns, almost getting killed...you know, the everyday stuff. lol
Anyway, the answer to your question:
I can't say I do believe in the big bang theory, but I'm not quite sure what I believe yet. I have a couple theories, but nothing major, and I can't really prove them either. It's difficult to know what happened and we as humans may never know, unless we witness another planet's creation or "big bang", or we develop a way to go back in time. Either way would work...
For now I think I'll just go with believing that the earth was created in a big factory, like in hitchhiker's guide. Yeah...that works. lol
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Post by Ali Blue on Oct 8, 2006 21:36:42 GMT -5
I hope it works out for you, Silv. and if you don't eventually figure it out, just give Creation a try.. I know it must seem either really illogical or just like you're putting too much faith in it, but if you just invest just a little bit of yourself into it, I promise it will work out for you.
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Post by silverlazy on Oct 10, 2006 19:57:32 GMT -5
I used to believe in Creation, when I was a kid. I guess a part of me still does. The Adam and Eve story was drilled ino me and I guess as I got older my mind started thinking more scientifically and to me it just doesn't make sense that two people could populate the entire earth. LOL, but I guess an EMT wouldn't think this anyways, after sitting through a 2 hour lecture on how to deliver babies in the field. It just seems so dang hard to give birth once! Poor Eve, having to populate the earth is punishment enough! lol
Anyway, I'll figure it out sooner or later. I'm still finding my place in life and I have a feeling that'll never come to an end. I'll always find something to change a belief.
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Post by Ali Blue on Oct 12, 2006 18:06:39 GMT -5
"Poor Eve, having to populate the earth is punishment enough!" lol yeah.. I never thought of that! XP
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Post by sithhunter on Oct 13, 2006 5:13:49 GMT -5
Well if you break it down the bible is not one book ((Belive it or not)) It's acctualy 66 books made by diffrent men spanning from kings to slave's as the writers......and the time of the books of witch they were writen also spanned from 2000 to 4000 years. And every man had one thing in common.....they all had an experince with god. Thats over 70 men agreeing on one thing :the word of god. Try getting 5 men to agree to one thing nowadays.....You cant. Noone can but god made these men agree and understand. He used these men for the bible like you would use a pen to write a poem.
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Post by Ali Blue on Oct 13, 2006 20:03:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure the time span was that long.... I'll check that.
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Post by sithhunter on Oct 14, 2006 18:41:30 GMT -5
But am i correct with the point i tried to make though?
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Post by Ali Blue on Oct 14, 2006 22:16:32 GMT -5
Yes, you captured the right idea. I just think that we have said what we have to say, and that's it.
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