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Post by eoloth on May 27, 2005 18:14:09 GMT -5
There are rules for this topic. Anyone can feel free to reply and/or discuss things, be they Catholic or not. You cannot insult or otherwise slander Catholicism or non-Catholicism. Please try to use constructive criticism and questions.
All right. That all said, I would like to open this topic with a prayer.
In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Dear Lord, We thank you for this day. We thank you for all you have blessed us with. Give us the strength to keep and cherish our faith always. Help us to remember to love everyone, as you love everyone. Help us to be humble in all our ways. Keep us safe, and guide and direct all our thoughts, words, and actions. We offer all of this in Jesus' Most Holy Name, through the Intercession of the Blessed Mother. Queen of Angels and Men, pray for us
O Most Holy Jesus, have mercy on us. Amen. In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
ok. How many of you Catholics pray in public, like in restaurants? I/we (my family) does. I also volunteer at the hospital, and i always pray before meals there too.
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Post by Joan Omnipresent on May 27, 2005 18:56:53 GMT -5
I am not Catholic, but I do pray in public. At restaurants, or at a friends house. I mean, I don't make a huge deal of it, but I pray, and when I'm with my family we do it quite out loud. I think it's a good way to show others that you're serious about your faith. People who you may never know or even talk to can see/hear that you are praying.
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Post by MFB - That One Guy on May 27, 2005 19:26:18 GMT -5
Amen!
I pray in public, with my fam. Mostly just Grace before meals. Also, though it gets confusing sometimes, I say the Name of the Cross in Latin. My whole fam does that too. Sometimes someone will say it and mess the rest up...heh.
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Post by Jareth on May 27, 2005 19:46:26 GMT -5
I'm not Catholic either, and I pray in public before meals. I try to talk to God as much as possible. It's like with a friend, you can't sustain a relationship without talking to them.
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Post by eoloth on May 28, 2005 13:35:36 GMT -5
this is great, you guys! it is really fun! (thanks MFB! for the 'Amen!' you know, that kinda reminds me of my dad. He's good with voices in different accents, and sometimes when he's hyped up about his faith, he'll get into a 'SOuthern drawling preacher' voice. Like "Testify, Sista!" Or "AMEN!" or even "My dear sistas and brothas, I am heuh (here) to talk to you about Jesus Christ, folks") I know what you mean about the relationship Jareth...it's important to me too. I pray every night...and i hope that i don't just dictate to GOd what i need (which is mostly for others...like i pray for alot of ppl)
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Post by MFB - That One Guy on May 28, 2005 13:43:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I try to say my Rosary each night. Sometimes it gets hard...like when you're online till 2am then realize it. Plus you have to wake up at 7am...for Mass...in the morning...*is tired* And then the 7 year old you're serving with tells you how to do the credence table, even though you've been doing it that way for four years without anyone telling you it's wrong. lol I sort of have an "accent" when I pray. Well, when I pray in Latin. It sounds...odd, but way better than my normal voice.
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Post by eoloth on May 28, 2005 15:46:08 GMT -5
I am sorry you had to deal with the 7 yr old server who acted like a know-it-all...
I know what you mean about the accent...it's like I just start speaking like a German, or Frenchman, or Latin person, as long as I know how to pronounce it...lol.
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Post by Cy Otauna on Jun 17, 2005 10:36:12 GMT -5
Latin is cool...I am Methodist, and have some problems with the Catholic faith but all is in love here, so i present them lovingly. MFBV knows this. (PS Kira, I exalt you for starting a thread with a prayer. That's wepic and brave.) My fam, my mom's at least, prays before eating out and all. Just short, but heartfelt prayers. This is my problem with Catholism: case in point, the Name of the Cross. I don't know what it is, though it seems to be a something to recite. I was to a Catholic church once and was astounded by how much ritual it is. How much standing, sitting, standing, sitting, memorizing, and 'nonCatholics can't take Communion (and therefor be a part of the body of Christ, symbolically) because you're not good enough or something' there is. I think Christianity doesn't have to be like that. Where in the Bible is all these prayers you recite, and where does it say to worship saints? They're people. There's my beginning...
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 18, 2005 9:23:52 GMT -5
Ok, while I am not a devout Catholic, I am Catholic and so I will defend my religion (Which to me is only a title) but anyways...
"How much standing, sitting, standing, sitting, memorizing, and 'nonCatholics can't take Communion (and therefor be a part of the body of Christ, symbolically) because you're not good enough or something' there is."
Cy, if I go to your church, a baptist church, a protestant church, I am not supposed to recieve communion either. I know because I have been to these churches at various periods in my life. I remember when I was younger I had to go to a funeral at a different church and when communion time came I was told by my mom and dad that people of other religions are not allowed to recieve the communion. In my friend's Baptist church I was not allowed to recieve communion. It is not only the Catholic church that prevents other religions from recieving the eucharist, but rather all of them.
"Where in the Bible is all these prayers you recite, and where does it say to worship saints? They're people."
First of all, I don't worship saints, nor do I know any Catholics who do. They are people and nothing more. They are just people who have committed great acts of kindness and love and they deserve extra recognition or at least that is what I have been taught in my 10+ years of Catholic sunday schooling. I was not taught to worship them. I think that statement is just a confusion of facts.
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Post by Jareth on Jun 18, 2005 11:53:20 GMT -5
"How much standing, sitting, standing, sitting, memorizing, and 'nonCatholics can't take Communion (and therefor be a part of the body of Christ, symbolically) because you're not good enough or something' there is." Cy, if I go to your church, a baptist church, a protestant church, I am not supposed to recieve communion either. umm, at our church, and we're not baptist, we let other Christians take communion, because it's a remembrance of what JESUS did, not what religion you're in. one more thing: I believe that it doesn't matter what group you're in, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, or whatnot, you can either be Christian or not, Christianity is a group most people lump together as Baptist, protestant, and a bunch of other stuff, but really, it's just people from every group, race, sex, and country who are the church of God, it's not a building, it's the Holy Spirit inside the members.
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 18, 2005 14:00:35 GMT -5
"I believe that it doesn't matter what group you're in, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, or whatnot, you can either be Christian or not, Christianity is a group most people lump together as Baptist, protestant, and a bunch of other stuff, but really, it's just people from every group, race, sex, and country who are the church of God, it's not a building, it's the Holy Spirit inside the members. "
Yeah, I fully agree with you. I don't like going to church and it doesn't matter what church or what religion that church beliongs to. I just don't like church. I think church is what is inside of your heart, not the building you go to and the people inside.
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Post by Joan Omnipresent on Jun 18, 2005 19:24:46 GMT -5
Hmmm...it's true that the Roman Catholic church is not what it used to be. So, I'll ask...would you pray to saints? That would seem a form of worship...
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 18, 2005 19:54:26 GMT -5
"Hmmm...it's true that the Roman Catholic church is not what it used to be. So, I'll ask...would you pray to saints? That would seem a form of worship..."
I don't pray to saints, nor have I ever been taught to. WHy do you keep insisting Catholics worship saints? If you are not catholic you wouldn't know for sure anyhow....
I'm telling you what I have learned in the past ten years of schooling. The only people I have learned to pray to is the Virgin Mary, God , and Jesus. The saints are more of people to look up to, like an idol, or your mom and dad for example. We DON'T worship them.
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Post by Joan Omnipresent on Jun 18, 2005 21:41:16 GMT -5
Hey! I just got here...I'm not insisting anything. Since I don't have any Roman Catholic friends, I was curious...*bewildered* I'll just go back where I came from...
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 18, 2005 21:45:44 GMT -5
No, stay. I just hate it when people try to insist on things they don't know about. However, I see it was a mistake on my own account.
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Post by Joan Omnipresent on Jun 18, 2005 21:49:04 GMT -5
Right-o! You've given me a good deal of grace over the past weeks... ; ) Honestly, I'm fairly ignorant of Roman Catholic belief and practice, so take whatever I say with several grains of salt, and maybe a little pepper...
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 18, 2005 21:50:55 GMT -5
LOL! I like pepper....and garlic salt...yum....*falls over imagining a delicious utopia of pepper and garlic salt*
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Post by Jareth on Jun 19, 2005 17:06:15 GMT -5
"Hmmm...it's true that the Roman Catholic church is not what it used to be. So, I'll ask...would you pray to saints? That would seem a form of worship..." I don't pray to saints, nor have I ever been taught to. WHy do you keep insisting Catholics worship saints? If you are not catholic you wouldn't know for sure anyhow.... The only people I have learned to pray to is the Virgin Mary, God , and Jesus. The saints are more of people to look up to, like an idol, or your mom and dad for example. We DON'T worship them. okie day, 1. Yeah, some "Catholics" pray to saints, of course, some "Christians" believe in the Hindu religion, and some think that man is just great and dandy and everyone's going to heaven 2. The Virgin Mary was a human, not an omnipotent figure. not trying to offend anyone here...
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Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 19, 2005 18:22:55 GMT -5
"1. Yeah, some "Catholics" pray to saints, of course, some "Christians" believe in the Hindu religion, and some think that man is just great and dandy and everyone's going to heaven 2. The Virgin Mary was a human, not an omnipotent figure. not trying to offend anyone here..."
First of all, praying is like asking for for help through something. Just because you pray to someone doesn't mean you are worshipping them. It means you are asking for help. Catholics ask saints for help, just like I would ask my parents for help through something. Just because I may ask my parents for help through words, doesn't mean that asking for help through the mind has to be considered praying either.
Praying is more of a psychological thing anyway. When you know there is a chance for help, it sometimes makes things easier to get through. That for the most part is why people pray.
You are saying you don't pray to Mary? Wasn't Mary the chosen one? That makes her somewhat special I would think. Jesus was human too, yet we still worship him.
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Post by Joan Omnipresent on Jun 20, 2005 9:14:50 GMT -5
He was the God-man. That makes Him different from Mary.
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