Post by SilverSergyon13 on Jun 22, 2005 18:55:07 GMT -5
"Umm, FYI, no microscopes. They couldn't have known that."
You don't need a microscope to see those parts of the egg at all. I'm sure anybody would have no problem seeing the egg sac, albumen, or fertility spot just fine with the naked eye. And remember, most of the people back then were farmers. They delt with eggs and chickens and other animals all the time. Those people may not have known all we know today, but they definitely weren't ignorant in the farming department.
Ok, back to the original topic at hand.
No one ever said Halloween was a Christian holiday. What was said is that Halloween is celebrated by many many Christians, even though it is a Pagan holiday. Many people keep pagan traditions for Christmas, Easter, and even a few other holidays I'm sure. Most Christians put a tree in their house during christmas - that is a pagan tradition. Many people also give out gifts. Sure, you can make up Christians excuses for many of these traditions, but the truth of it is that these holidays originated as Pagan ones. THey were just "modified" if you will, by certain Christians who wanted to do away with pagan traditions. However, traditions are hard to break and they were not entirely successful. Pagan traditions are still celebrated today by Christians.
Post by Joan Omnipresent on Jun 22, 2005 19:25:51 GMT -5
Sure, you can make up Christians excuses for many of these traditions, but the truth of it is that these holidays originated as Pagan ones.
Yup. You're exactly right. That's why I don't celebrate those holidays as religious days. Some of them I don't celebrate at all, even as a fun/family tradition. Neither do many of the Christians I know.
Ah yes, corrupting. That's how I was brought over to the Better Side. What was your method for converting me, Master?
Alistair turned to the Darkside because she liked Joan and chocolate, right?
Post by Jandalf on Toast on Jun 23, 2005 15:32:29 GMT -5
Yes, I've never gone trick-or-treating myself. It's something that's always been avoided in my family. We had bowling night instead. (grins) Much fun.
I think today, as well as being concerned about paganistic traditions, there's concern about the materialistic qualities around these holidays, most especially Christmas. Even people who have all the intentions of using the day to reflect on Jesus' birth and what it means to us can too easily become caught up in the commercialism. Shop till you drop, eh. That's why I hate commercialism and what it brings. All that hype means nothing whatsoever.
Post by sblomietheinsane on Jun 25, 2005 9:37:14 GMT -5
Just because I celebrate Christmas as a religeous holiday does not mean it's somehow wrong or bad for me to include non-Chrisian traditions so long as they aren't wrong in and of themselvs. I know that lots of parts of Christmas were unrelated to religeon but that's fine. If I keep my focus on the most important part of the holiday, I don't think it's wrong for me to include other parts.