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Post by Cy Otauna on Aug 12, 2004 14:08:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the support Trinity!! this thread is for writers of original fiction: stuff all your own. No SW, no LotR, etc. Chat about ideas, plots, publishing, and we'll see if we can make a board like the ff one for reviews & stuff. if you've got half a plot or something, say it here. i've got a bunch of plots floating around in that void called my mind, mostly fantasy stuff. the only scifi is a werewolf type thing on a space station. must write more!!!!
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Post by Trinity on Aug 12, 2004 18:51:05 GMT -5
Sigh, all the good plots are TAKEN!!!!! I don't know EXACTLY what I want to write, but I know I definetly want it to be different. Something that no one has thought of before. I have thought about writing a fantasy, but don't know how it would turn out and I have no clue if I could develop my own little world with different races and such.
I was actually thinking of a plot, but it needs a bit more developement before I can actually start writing... *is getting really good ideas*
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Post by Dûncariel is Dead. on Aug 14, 2004 18:01:31 GMT -5
I'm working on my idea right now, with all the Dreamers that I mentioned and stuff. When it's finished (the prep part that I'm writing to see if it's gonna work) I'm going to find some place to post it and see if it will work for a book. It's rather interesting, but I haven't worked on it for a while. I still have yet to find a name for my main character. For the moment I'm calling him Jaycen, but I don't know if I like it or not.
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Aug 15, 2004 23:57:32 GMT -5
I write a lot of original stuff- so if anyone wants any help with fantasy or Sci-fi original fictions, I am here... heh. And if you want, I can make a board for original stuff. Also try fictionpress.com.
Trinity, to create a world is really, really easy. Heck, if you want an already created world I can give you one of mine-- I'll never use all the ones I've made!
I have two main plots going right now-- one's a sci-fi fantasy crossover-- it's the main tie in to all of my writings... it's several worlds that create an... interesting way. Right now the main part I'm doing is the history, which is mainly fantasy stuff. If anyone wants to read it, I'll email it to them. The other one is about a world of darkness. And that's all I'm going to say, as that's a fairly unique plot, and I don't want to reveal it all... *makes face, falls asleep*
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Post by Trinity on Aug 16, 2004 12:18:56 GMT -5
My problem with creating a world is that I like to be detailed. EXTREMELY detailed. I like to make people see exactly what I have invisioned in this (crazy) head of mine and understand what things look like, smell like, feel like, ect. Same with my characters. I also like describing things.
I think I have a pretty good plot, but I am still developing my world and the characters in it. I am always afraid that in an absract way, I will end up taking ideas from other books, so I have to be REALLY careful about that. But it's coming along nicely, I just have to figure some stuff out first...
As for names, Dun, may I make a suggestion? Look in the Bible. They have the most interesting names. Just read through bits of the old testament. I always find good names in there. I know it may sound weird, but you would be surprised with what you find. I found a name for two of my characters in there.
Hmm... you could make a board for original stuff for us to test our stories out on... Personally, I for one would rather have you guys see it before I launch it on fictionpress.
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Post by Dûncariel is Dead. on Aug 16, 2004 15:59:03 GMT -5
I have actually gone through a lot of the sections in the Old Testament with all of the names and stuff, but I didn't find one. I generally start with a name when I create a character, and then build their personality off of the meanings and stuff, to make everything fit. But I sort of got this character in my head for the main character, and I have yet to find a name to fit him. And I must have a name, or else I can't write *fumes*. All of my other characters for the whole first section or so have names, except for the one who needs a name.... So frustrating.
The stuff I'm writing is sort of turning out to be Sci-Fi, which is wierd, 'cause the only Science Fiction I've ever read was Star Wars, and it's generally not the kind of stuff that I write. But I sort of have this light bulb moment, and all of these nifty ideas, then I just started writing, and it's starting to make sense in my notebook and my head, so I might have something...
I need to teach myself to make goals and meet them when I'm writing, just to keep myself going. Otherwise, I get all these cool ideas, then I don't write them, and then I forget. 'Tis dreadfully confusing when you try to remember them later.
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Aug 16, 2004 20:46:35 GMT -5
Dun, what's your character like? I have a sorta gift for naming characters-- I mean really... heh. Well, all characters but Sith. *rolls eyes* Audreidi will know what I mean by THAT...
And Trinity, I think you would find that I am very detailed about worlds. My worlds have maps-- more than one... they have people for different places, they have langauges-- I create a world that you could actually see in your mind's eye. Really!
I can make a board if you want-- heh... I'd be willing to read and review any original stuff you guys post. And since you guys are GMs, YOU can make the board... heh... *rolls eyes* If you make it, put it in the fanfiction catagory. That's all I have to say. *rolls eyes again* Heck, if you make the board, I'll probably post up some of my own stuff, maps, and all that. I am free to make maps too, you know...
I've never thought to look through the Bible for names-- I've always been able to name characters well enough on my own. Well, there's a few here and there, but usually I can name them in a moment or two... all but Alorain/Vlessa... I still haven't found her a fitting name-- Alorian, I know is wrong... but Vlessa doesn't fit her either. Sigh.
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Post by Cy Otauna on Aug 17, 2004 13:16:48 GMT -5
i get names from the Bible, too, and out of thin air. baby name books can be interesting too...try having a name with the translation "bear scratching itself." right now i'm just starting out with stories. star wars seems so much easier, so much more alive than my stuff...and i can't seem to make things well yet. worlds i've mostly been using "templates" like midevil times for fantasies, space for sci-fi's...but spacetravel has so much potential to be different and interesting. i had a thought about doing the "future" of a midevil fantasy, like it's dragons and elves but in an economy and technological world like, i'm picturing, NYC. in that i think these people're trying to get the magic of the past back...but there has to be a reson why it's left...see the holes in this stuff??
eowyn, if what you're talking about is the "Three Worlds" email me please! i've been wanting to read it but not had time to go to fp.net.
there's also this random space-explorer thingie...THE knows about this one sortof--Anti Federation Spray!! then the kekaesees...like werewolves in that they turn half human. it once was a drug or something to make superhumans and went wrong, and the protagonist is the only one that can control it and make it not take over your mind and make you an animal...it's a genetic thing.
also guys, feel free to post stuff here. i mean i'm not worrying about poeple stealing plots in company like this. if you think else, tell me though. i will make a fp board soon...must work on map...worlds...ack this is complex.
do you work on one story at a time, always? do you gotta keep ideas in your head for a while while they form? do you ever feel like its less creating a world than discovering it?
or maybe that's just me.
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Post by Trinity on Aug 17, 2004 15:26:08 GMT -5
When I was writing fanfiction, I would finish one story before i started another because I would always end up spending more time on one than the other. And I DEFINETLY keep ideas in my head until they form.
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Post by Cy Otauna on Aug 19, 2004 11:50:24 GMT -5
i have a lot going at once, basicly because i don't always feel like writing one thing, so write another. somebody want to make a fanficion type thread for this?
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Aug 23, 2004 23:19:02 GMT -5
If you want one, I'll make one
Actually, what I'm talking about is, indeed, the history of what made The Three Worlds-- but it wouldn't be familiar, the Three Worlds is a later story that was wrote merely for character development, and all that.
Shieldzup, have you wrote any of this story yet? Because I can see some... interesting plots forming from what you mentioned. You see, the magic of the past could've been removed purposely from the worlds, in order to save them from some plague. However, that left them drained, and unable to regain those powers. Years later though, they could need the magic back, or else the magical creatures would die, or whatever, and have to go on a quest to the past to save the magic... heh.
I have so many ideas floating around it isn't even funny!
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Post by Cy Otauna on Aug 26, 2004 19:52:10 GMT -5
that sounds cool, eowyn...what i had as a bit of the plot is that #1 this guy, a dragons trainer in the army, like realizes the former intelligence of the dragons and tries to reconnect them with that-i've got cool stuff for the wars, like armored dragons with implants and genetic modifications and things. i'm also thinking that there are two kinds of magic, the more powerul of the past and the weaker of the present. naturally you could have a bad guy trying to exploit that old power...but where did it go? what do you mean by plague? plague spread among magic-users? i thought of that for a sw fic once, one never taken anywhere. i havn't started writing this yet, it's just kinda there waiting for more stuff...
eowyn if you want we can develop this, we both seem to have thought of that sortof thing...want to colaborate?
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Post by Jandalf on Toast on Aug 27, 2004 22:30:54 GMT -5
If you're looking in the Bible for names, head to First Chronicles. Trust me on that one. I have a bunch of name ideas written down from people in there. Pretty much all that book is about is who is the relative of who.
Not to be skeptical of your imagination, Padawan...but I must disagree on one point. Creating a world is relatively easy, yes, but filling it? Giving it inhabitants, culture, technology, even language, local animals/plants...and all this must fit together as a true environment would or the reader won't be satisfied. Even the sci-fi I've read that's focused mostly on politics takes a lot of time to mention the local populace, how they're dressed, what the market's looking like today, etc. Of course, if one has an overactive imagination like most of us here, coming up with ideas is no problem. It's just fitting them all together into a believable web that can be a challenge.
I've actually got a really good book at home on how to make believable characters, plots, even introductions. If you guys ever want me to jot down some of those tips in here, you're more than welcome to ask.
I've been working on a plot for a sci-fi/fantasy myself. Something about a boy saving the universe. Snrk. There was also the one idea I had about people getting implants in their brains to detect quantum waves, based on the theory that for every atomic particle, there is another particle somewhere that is inimately attuned to it, no matter how large the distance. So the connection could give off a sort of "vibe", if you will. The scientists test an implant prototype on a young girl, but it doesn't go as expected. She drops into a coma. They remove the implant and manage to wake her after several years...but she still has the ability to detect emotions and thoughts in the quantum currents. Sort of like a scientifically possible alternative of the Force.
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Aug 28, 2004 17:55:36 GMT -5
I'm relativly skilled in creating whole worlds, with everything that makes them seem real, master-- you do not know me as well as you could, though you know me better than most. I can create worlds, with people, places, things, politics, and all that other stuff that makes them real. I spent several hours once, writing out how the goverment worked in the Sadrainian Galactic System-- I know all about creating worlds, and making them real. Never had any trouble with it either. And, as you mentioned, most of us have overreactive imaginations anyhow-- if you can fit it all together, it works NICELY!!!
Some of your plots really scare me, Jandalf, and they all seem a lot like SW-- have you ever thought to try making a plot that doesn't have any SW/LOTR/POTC/MATRIX/DUNE type stuff to it though? I'm, at present, developing a plot for a Christian Sci-fi/Fantasy story... it's rather different from typical plots I've worked out...
Shieldzup, if you want to collaborate, sure... we both have... ummm... interesting ideas. And yes, that's what I meant. A plauge among magic-users, and such that caused their magic to go haywire... the rest of the world was in danger from that.
I can make believeable characters, and plots... most of the time... because they're fantasy type. However, if you have any tips on getting a story started without seeming monotonous... that'd be good. You should probably post some of the tips about making believable characters too-- a lot of people have trouble with that, I know... something about Mary-Sues, I think... snicker. What is this book called?
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Post by Cy Otauna on Aug 29, 2004 10:37:34 GMT -5
tips would definatly be a good thing.
i do have this overactive imagination but maybe becasue i just started doing it worlds aren't that easy for me. i just can't see it or make it interesting...help!
people say beginnings are hard, and i agree, but i found that if you think of it as how a cool beginning of a movie would look you get good stuff. colaborating is good but I'm pretty sure that, now that i said it, i wont be the one to start it just because that story is not my main nonFF one right now...the one that is i am finding out very slowly what is going on...jandalf you're plot sounds neat but is Star Warsy.
christian scifi has been working at my brain for a while but i have no plot YET. i saw in a newsletter that ther's this series, the first one is called "white" by a christian author and its sortof matrix-inspired. i've been trying to get a hold of that.
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Post by Dûncariel is Dead. on Aug 29, 2004 14:52:51 GMT -5
Whoah... somebodie's had too much Biology. It might be me, 'cause I sort of understood part of that *tilts head and looks at screen sideways* Well, maybe just a part.
Worlds aren't too hard to create, once you've got an idea in your head. Neither are governments for worlds. The only problem I have is in what people to put where, and what to name those people. Like in the plot I've been working on lately, the sci-fi thing. It's set in a sort of futuristic earth, but not, 'cause I haven't named it yet, and all of the people are sort of based on predjudices. The Rule (the higher society government people) use the lower classes and people who have abilities (ie Dreamers, Tracers etc) to further their influence. It all sounds too easy, but I've made it ultimately confusing to work with. The relationships are all screwed up.
I also made this commitment to myself that I wouldn't use any of other people's ideas, say, for instance, that I wouldn't write about Elves, because they would be in no way of my own creation. Some of the stuff I have is loosely based on other stuff, at least, the Dreamers have roots in Minority Report, Robert Jordan, and a few other odd places, but they're mostly my own race of people that live in my head.
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Post by Cy Otauna on Aug 30, 2004 12:48:02 GMT -5
the thing with elves, dwarves stuff like that is that their so 'canon' its like essential for that kind of story. you can change them though, and do interesting things...or make new races. i've got this group called the...well i don't remember, but their a race of humans and can hypnotize with thier eyes, and untill they're grown and trained not to they have to wear dark glasses or it will affect everyone aroudn them. i'm working on their society now for a fic that started off a live action rpg me and my cousins started randomly.
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Post by Trinity on Sept 1, 2004 16:22:21 GMT -5
I do believe I am ready to start my story. I have thought up a good enough planet, have a main character, and a bit of a story outline... Don't know what is going to happen too much beyond the first chapter, but we shall see! Hopefully it isn't stupid...
I'll post it on here in the fanfiction section as soon as I get around to typing it...
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Post by Jandalf on Toast on Sept 2, 2004 11:29:10 GMT -5
Creating worlds is easier for some than it is for others...and I've got another sci-fi/fantasy-ish idea that has NOTHING to do with anything I've ever read. Don't have enough time at the moment to jot it down here, but maybe I will later.
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Sept 2, 2004 19:43:23 GMT -5
WE NOW HAVE A BOARD FOR ORIGINAL FICTION!!!! PLEASE USE IT!!! WE CAN CREATE THREADS FOR MAPS, PLOTS, CHARACTERS, WORLDS, AND ALL THAT STUFF!!!!!!
Okay, done shouting!
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