In order. You can skip a few, but...definatly Vector Prime...I don't own the one where they invade Yavin IV *tear* so I can't remmeber it's name. Probably Star by Star and whichever one it is where Jason gets captured, that is immediatly pre-Traitor. It'd be a big undertaking but see you'd be so confused if you didn't know stuff. I don't entirly like the crazy directions they took some stuff, plot points, in...
That's Dark Nest II that'll be the next one out. But I have to have someone else read them for me to interrogate them, because the main reason I don't like NJO gets tenfold worse with DN. Does anyone agree with me that Lucasfilm--which of course will not stop printing books if we continue to buy them--have gone to far into the future of the canon? I don't like it. It's like I can feel the Plot stretching, which is odd. Star Wars was created as a great fairy tale, a myth, and I think our so-loved characters need a happy ever after. And I don't wanna see Luke dye.
Post by Jandalf on Toast on Oct 14, 2005 19:10:45 GMT -5
Yes, sometimes things are better left alone. I really don't want to see Star Wars milked for all it's worth and then everyone loses interest. It's much better to cut it off and leave the rest to people's imaginations while they're still all hooked.
Post by Morgana Le Fay on Oct 18, 2005 16:15:21 GMT -5
I just got - and read- Dark Nest 2 last night. Feel free to interrogate, Cy. PM me - I don't want to ruin it for everyone. Some surprises, but they're getting just lame. They've overkilled the "let's let all the heros keep beating the tougher and tougher odds" line.
Plus, Troy Denning's a horrible author - Leia sounds like Han, Luke sounds like Han, Kyp sounds like a whiny brat, Jaina IS a whiny brat, Han sounds like Lando, Mara sounds like a cranky old bat...well, he did her right, at least..... *stopping rant and calming down* The only decent characters are Jacen and Ben.
They really need to give it a rest. I totally agree, Cy. Let them have their happily ever afters. They deserve it. *grumbles* Especially with these rotten authors...
Maybe we should boycott the books, and the merchandise, so that we do remain hooked. Our lives as SW fans are at stake here! If they use all the plots, then we won't have any as fic authors... our imaginative wells will have run dry.
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Post by Tiana, eh? on Oct 18, 2005 23:45:05 GMT -5
1) I started reading NJO on Traitor and I survived... I still haven't read half of it. I suggest that you read Vector Prime myself, but Star by Star is the essential one in the series. So, yeah... Traitor isn't a good start. A great book, but it nearly scared me away from the entire NJO series...
2) I bought Dark Nest I a couple weeks ago, still haven't finished it. I'm annoyed that they're trying to milk SW for all its worth, and wish that they'd just go way back in time and tell us about pre-KotOR instead. However, I love the book for a few reasons, and hate it for a few more. Spoiler-filled review to follow.
[glow=black,112,300] Beginning the book, I utterly wanted to kill the author. Troy Dennings is one of my favorite Star Wars authors, but he didn't do so well in the aftermath of NJO. The plot is ridiculously Mary-Sue, the overdone "let's all save the galaxy AGAIN from some out of the galaxy invaders, because the narrators are too lazy to come up with something new and creative such as TIME TRAVEL like Eowyn Skywalker did in her post-NJO story which she considers to be far more interesting canon than Dark Nest was cough yes she's spamming cough" plotline. That was a pointless spam of my fanfiction-working. Loleth. Anyway.
It starts off. Tahiri's with the Vong, expectably... I can't remember quite what Jaina was up to, I think she was in a bit of trouble, and Jacen's off trying to find the whole truth by experimenting with different Force-sensitive religions. -_- Though not out of character for him, it bugged me that the author took liberaty in creating pointless religions focused on their variations of the Force, or so it appears. The characters involved claimed it wasn't the Force, of course...
Then, of COURSE, they threw in Han and Leia, who both act rather too much out of character for their own well being... -_-
The entire crew that was on Myrkr get this weird summons through the Force, and end up going off into the Outer Rim. Which was the first decent tie-in plot point... up to the point where this started explaining itself, I hated the story. Ben's appearance (Red hair and "fiery" blue eyes) was so Sue, though I like his character a lot... he's one of the only redeemable characters in the lot, though Mara's IC as a cranky and moody wife, and Luke was forgivable enough. (Leia's not forgivable)
Thus they all end up in the Outer Rim after these "Joiners" or whatever. This is where it finally starts getting into an amusing plotline. Almost forgives them for not giving the old characters a rest when they were so overdone...
And, lookie here, Raynar's back, as UnuThul. Now if those Dark Jedi show up, the tie in to Myrkr will be complete... heh. In fact, that they put Raynar in as what they did, and had Luke go all "There's still Raynar inside of you" makes it forgivable for that. And the alien women... and the Ewok! Snrk. The Ewok... was... odd.
I can't judge until I read the rest of the book, but so far it's... tolerable. The Crystal Star is just plain blasphemy, and I like the Finder King better than Children of the Jedi and (winces) Planet of Twilight...
Needless to say, the plot is overdone, half the characters I could've wrote better, but it does have it's redeeming points. Most nameably, Ben Skywalker, who I love. Mmm... such a nice character...
Jaina's ridiculously whiny. She's been taking lessons from her grandfather.
But the book's not bad so far, and it's worthy of being named Star Wars, unlike the Crystal Star, which is UNFORGIVABLE!! [/glow]
Okay, that's my rant. I think the good fanfiction authors will always outdo the real authors, somehow...
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Unless they have a magic boat. If they have a magic boat, I'm pretty much doomed.... *cough*
Aright...I probably won't read it and will instead keep writing my angst and time-travel *coughoriginalideacough* and watching RotJ. Thanks. I won't boycott though...I mean the new books yes. They need to get off the best seller lists--where they are because some fans read them just cause they're Star Wars. There's too much good stuff out there.
Some of the authors are definatly less than par. Stover was awesome, the dude who novelized ANH was awesome, RotJ couldn't've not been awesome if Jude Watson wrote it...ok well maybe it could, but my point is that Lucas can get good authors(unless he cant tell what a good author is) and mundane ones make these truely predictable plotlines all the more boring.